The Great Dog Pants Debate
The latest episode of "Signals from the Deep" dives into the Seattle Kraken's current state as they navigate the challenges of consistency in their game going into another long road trip. Hosts Piper Shaw and JT Brown then take to the locker room to interview Josh Mahura, Brandon Montour, and Ryker Evans about the proper way for a dog to wear pants. All this and more in our very first episode of 2025!
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Piper Shaw:Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Signals from the Deep, the official podcast of Blue Seattle Kraken. I am, of course, Piper Shah, joined as always by J.D. brown. How we doing?
JT Brown:Doing good. Excited for another episode.
Piper Shaw:All right. Your enthusiasm. I hope people can really feel how excited you are based on that response.
And of course, always joining us from Seattle because we are on the road, we have producer extraordinaire, Grant Beery.
Grant Beery:Hello. Hello. Nice to see y'all. Virt. Once again, this is two weeks in a row that we haven't been in the same room.
Piper Shaw:I know, not ideal, but just kind of way the schedule works itself out. So, yeah, JT and I were just talking about that too.
It's nice when we can all be in the same room and also have players on in the same room, which gets us right into things because we are fresh off of Kraken practice. We are in Columbus at the time of recording this.
And so after practice, JT and I made a foray into the locker room to pose some really, really tough questions at some of these guys. I will say I was kind of giving JT crap for it, but I was like, is this your first interview with one of the players since you got here?
Because JT notoriously does not go into the locker room. He doesn't have to. It's not his job.
JT Brown:But I think I've had a couple. I think. Yeah. That might have been like three or four, though. It was probably. Yeah, it's been a very small amount of interviews done.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. But I do think going forward too, and as we continue to build like what the Kraken Hockey Network is too, it'd be cool to have you do more of that.
Like, I'd love to have you and Yanni like sit down and like maybe a more little more professional interview maybe than we had before. And like, talk about your guys's friendship and journey. But that's for.
JT Brown:I like.
Piper Shaw:I know. Well, it can be fun. I mean, it will be fun because you guys are friends inherently. Just. It would be maybe more real work.
JT Brown:Then if we're doing that. I like having the interviews where we're just going up asking fun questions.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, don't we all? Trust me, trust me. Don't we all?
Which gets us right into this because we decided to chat up Josh Mahura, who goes by Muzz, Ryker Evans, and then Brandon Montour, who has made a podcast appearance before. And in fact, when we asked him if he could.
If we could have a couple minutes of his time for the podcast again after we did this interview, he goes, what kind of podcast are you guys running through these. Which I think you will figure out why. So, Grant, if you will, can we roll the interviews?
Grant Beery:I'll queue them up. Here we go.
Piper Shaw:All right, signals from the deep nation. We're here with Josh Mahura. We're at practice. We got some hard hitting questions for you here. Josh, are you ready?
Josh Mahura:I'm ready to go.
Piper Shaw:First of all, if a dog wore pants, which way would he wear the pants? We have a visual here.
Josh Mahura:I think on the. The right there.
Piper Shaw:So just on the back legs.
Josh Mahura:On the hind.
Piper Shaw:Just on the back leg. So only two legs? Not all four?
Josh Mahura:Not all four. Just on the two.
Piper Shaw:What do you think of this one? Is that one?
Josh Mahura:I mean, I don't even.
Piper Shaw:It's kind of messed up. I was like, once you make four.
Josh Mahura:Legs, I think that's. Yeah, I don't know. I. On our dogs, we cut. Like we say, like our front are their feet or their. Their back are their feet and the front are their hands.
Piper Shaw:I agree.
Josh Mahura:That's what we say. I don't know. I don't think there's a wrong answer in that one, though. Really?
JT Brown:I just don't know how all four would stay up.
Josh Mahura:I think it's perspective. Yeah, exactly. That too.
Piper Shaw:That is a good point. That's a good point. You need a really strong belt.
Josh Mahura:Yeah.
Piper Shaw:All right, JT,
JT Brown:first one is going to be. If you're out on. Let me rephrase this. So if you're out to dinner with the teammates, who's gonna be least likely to pay?
Josh Mahura:Who's gonna be least likely? Probably. Probably Karts, I would say. I would say Karts are. Ryker.
Piper Shaw:I just always forgot their wallet.
Josh Mahura:Yeah, they just never bring them anyway.
JT Brown:So that's fair enough.
Piper Shaw:What's your favorite jersey in the NHL, other than the Kraken jersey, can be a specialty jersey or any other team. Just like a favorite that you have.
Josh Mahura:Oh, my favorite jersey. Trying to think here, probably maybe one of. Maybe one of the old Edmonton ones. The dark navy blue with. I don't know what you call it.
Piper Shaw:The, like, alternative.
Josh Mahura:Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, that one.
I mean, I'm from Edmonton, so I obviously like the Oilers growing up, and when Ryan Smyth was wearing those jerseys and stuff like that, it was. I always thought they were cool. So probably that. Just because it's more of a little like. Like I said, childhood nostalgia. Exactly that.
Piper Shaw:All right, last one for you.
JT Brown:Who's the last person on the team you would let date your sister or your daughter?
Josh Mahura:Who is the last person on the team?
Piper Shaw:Like, absolutely not.
JT Brown:And you don't have to give a reason why. Just who's the last person?
Josh Mahura:Who's the last person? I don't know. We all got. We got some pretty good guys in this room, actually. I guess if I had one, I'd let the. I'd let one of the boys.
We got good guys in this room, so I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Piper Shaw:With any of them.
Josh Mahura:No, no.
JT Brown:All right, fair enough.
Piper Shaw:Wow, what a credit to this room.
JT Brown:All right, let's see if the answer is the same for the rest.
Josh Mahura:I know.
Piper Shaw:Thank you, Josh.
Josh Mahura:Thank you.
JT Brown:Clearly, my question.
Piper Shaw:First hard hitting question for you here, Brandon. If a dog were to wear pants, which way would he wear the pants?
Brandon Montour:I got pants for my dog, and it's the right side.
Piper Shaw:Okay, so it's the second option.
Brandon Montour:Yeah, actually, it's actually the full get up, though. It's got both legs and it goes up to his. He's got, like, allergy issues and he bites his hair and stuff.
So I literally have pants that he puts on both his legs or all four of his legs and up to, like a little turtleneck.
Piper Shaw:Okay, so then it's kind of like.
Brandon Montour:A little bit of both. Yeah, it's got both. Well, I mean, how does that even stay on a dog?
JT Brown:So I'm going.
Josh Mahura:Right, okay.
Piper Shaw:All right, we have a consistent answer there. Stevie feels strongly about the first option there.
Brandon Montour:So unless somehow there's like a couple buckles that go around, you know, we.
Piper Shaw:Did find on the Internet.
Brandon Montour:Yeah, there's options like that.
Piper Shaw:All right, next question, jt.
JT Brown:All right, so if you're out to dinner with your teammates, who is least likely to pay? So who's got the alligator arms?
Brandon Montour:I'm either gonna say the Booger man or I'm gonna say Mazel Tov.
Piper Shaw:No one knows who.
JT Brown:Anyone.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. I would say for the people, for.
Brandon Montour:The listeners, for them to figure out who the Booger man is and who Mazel Tov is.
Piper Shaw:All right, perfect. All right, next question for you. Other than the Krakens jersey, what's your favorite jersey in the NHL?
It can be from a special event or something that's been probably the.
Brandon Montour:Red Panthers jersey.
Piper Shaw:Oh, I wonder why. Oh, all right, That's a good answer. Eh, last question.
Brandon Montour:Hey, folks.
JT Brown:All right, so last question is, who would you not let date your daughter or a sister on this team?
Brandon Montour:Probably Goose. Wow.
Piper Shaw:All right.
JT Brown:I think the best part is that everybody's around.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, Everybody's just sitting right here. Yeah. Just literally catching strays just sitting there. All right, well, thank you. There you have it. All right, we're here with Ryker Evans.
We have a hard hitting question. If a dog was going to wear pants, which way would he wear the pants?
Ryker Evans:The. The second one.
Piper Shaw:The second one. So that's the same thing that Josh said.
Ryker Evans:Yeah, that just makes most sense now.
Piper Shaw:Why does it make the most sense?
Ryker Evans:Well, how's he supposed to. Like, that's like, right in his butt. No, it is.
Piper Shaw:You're right.
Ryker Evans:But same with this one. But this just looks. This is. But this is like. This looks uncomfortable. Like, the waistline's there, but like, the waistline's like, oh, right there.
The waistline would be on his butt. That would be so uncomfortable.
Piper Shaw:You know, the wayside goes up to his neck in the first option.
Ryker Evans:That's why, like, that's. That's just uncomfortable.
JT Brown:I just don't think the belt would actually keep these up.
Piper Shaw:All right, next question here. JT's got the next question.
JT Brown:So if you're out to dinner with your teammates, who is least likely to pay?
Piper Shaw:Well, always forgot their wallet.
Ryker Evans:You know, it's goose.
Ryker Evans:Like Gustav Olofsson goose or karts, probably. I said use carts and, like, maybe myself. Actually, I did do that one time with Henman. Luke Henman. I told him I'd buy him a Blizzard.
And then we got to the window. I forgot my wallet.
Piper Shaw:Did you actually forget it, though? Like a mistake or.
Ryker Evans:Well, it was like, after purpose. No, it was after a game. I got like.
Ryker Evans:I got.
Ryker Evans:Ran from behind and he fought someone. He fought the guy, and I'm like, all right, I'll get you a blizzard. Like, after the game, we get to the window and I'm like [HORN] I don't have my wallet.
Piper Shaw:Well, JT did that. JT did that to me in Chicago, so.
Ryker Evans:Fair enough.
JT Brown:It happens to the best of us sometimes.
Piper Shaw:Okay, next question is, what is your favorite jersey in the NHL, other than a Kraken jersey? It can be a specialty jersey or one from, you know, like an event or something nostalgic.
Ryker Evans:I like the. Like the. The old Nordiques jersey because I was, like, an Avs fan growing up.
Piper Shaw:Yeah.
Ryker Evans:So I like what they have going on. That was really my favorite.
Piper Shaw:Okay, all right, last question.
JT Brown:Last hard hitting question is, who on the team would you not let date your daughter or a sister?
Piper Shaw:Who would you. Just not. Not even considering hard. No.
Ryker Evans:First response, Burky.
Piper Shaw:All right.
JT Brown:There's no. It doesn't have to say why. Just. Just who this is.
Ryker Evans:Burky.
Piper Shaw:All right. Love it. Thank you. All right, so I will say we also asked this same dog question, the pants. The dog pants question.
It carried on all throughout the rest of the after practice conversation. When Coach Bosma came up to do his availability, that was the first question that I asked him, and I.
I didn't really know how to read his reaction at first. But then after we, you know, did the full availability and, like, talked about actual hockey stuff, he stuck around to really talk to you about it.
JT.
JT Brown:Yeah, it was a good. It was probably about 15 minutes.
You'd say, we had a conversation, and obviously, if you haven't seen the picture, just go on your search engine and look up if you were a dog, how would a dog wear pants? And then you can find the images of that. And, you know, it was a very good conversation.
Obviously, I have my feelings as to which way the pants would be worn, and I can see it from both sides. But, yeah, it was definitely a. An interesting conversation. We even had, you know, Al was chirping in a little bit as well and then giving his take.
And I think the overwhelming majority, though, would put the pants on two legs, on the back two legs.
That's what we have found through not only just the questions that we did for this podcast, but went around the locker room as well and asked a lot more of the players as well.
So now I'm not going to say they're wrong because everybody gets their own opinion, and it is a very hypothetical question, but it was fun to just kind of break it up and then talked, obviously, to the players, but also to get Dan to come back. And it was definitely, you know, something that he wanted to come back and talk to after the media was done. So it Was definitely fun.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. I think he, I don't know if he knew that we had kind of taken over the locker room with this question.
We asked almost every single player in the locker room this question. Although they weren't all on the, on the microphone. So Stevie Chandler Stevenson had. He felt the opposite. He thought all four legs.
He said if the, if the animals or if the creature's legs are on the ground, then that makes them legs, not arms. So he said all of the legs should be covered.
But Josh Mahera, I liked what he said, which you did hear how he was like, he was like, well, I always say that their front paws are their hands. I'm like, exactly.
JT Brown:And there's an argument to be had. But again, it's a super hypothetical. I think we even got to starting to ask where a giraffe would wear a tie at one point too.
So definitely the interesting questions were going on today. Yeah.
Piper Shaw:So also shout out Coach Bylsma because he really sat there with JT for a while and they were going back and forth about it. I think he really wanted to understand your perspective on this question.
JT Brown:Think about how I'm thinking it through and just giving my answer. But obviously, I mean there is pants that you can buy for all four legs. We have seen those looking it up and what dogs would wear.
So the practical approach of the four legged pants, I guess would be. But I'm looking at it more from, you know, if that dog was a human, where would it go? Where would the waist? How would the belt work?
There's just a lot of things that go on. But it, for me, it still has to be the back legs.
Piper Shaw:Yeah.
JT Brown:Even though I take, I took what Dan said and I listened to it, I process it. But at the end of the day I still got to stay with my decision.
Piper Shaw:The conversation would have continued to go on, but I was looking at the clock. We were scheduled to start recording, recording this at 3:00 and it was 2:41.
And I was like, Dan, JT love this conversation, but we, we do have work to do, so we do need to go. And I was like, jt, I'll leave you here, but I'm not leaving Grant out to dry here.
So that brings us, of all the reasons, what is your opinion on this? We need it.
Grant Beery:Well, I would say back two legs, that is the functionality of what pants are for, dictates that it's just back two legs. I mean, putting him on the front two legs is, is just unnecessary. Also, your belt's too big at that point. So I just.
Going forward, if you do get caught in a conversation with Coach Bylsma of this nature and it has to delay the podcast, I will be very understanding and that's okay.
Piper Shaw:I know. I was just. We're just being respectful of everyone's time.
I also, even though he was being so gracious to, you know, engage with us about something so ridiculous like this, I also just like, I don't want to waste coaches time either, too. Too much of it talking about dog pants, you know, and giraffe neck ties. But I appreciate him humoring us.
JT Brown:The other question that was brought up as well was where would the shirt go? Right. Like if, if the dog had to wear a shirt and you had all four legs with the pants, like, you'd have nowhere for a shirt to go.
Piper Shaw:It's like a cape.
JT Brown:I mean, I'm just starting to, you know, at the end of the day, the more I think about it, the less four legs make sense to me.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. I also couldn't Ryker's response about being really concerned. The pants have to cover the butt. Pants have to cover the butt. He said.
Like, that's a good point. That's a, that's a great case for the back two legs.
Grant Beery:Great podcast title too. That might be our episode title right there.
Piper Shaw:Oh, no. Oh, man. But a couple of other updates from crack and practice, depending on when you're listening to this, this could be old news, this.
You know, we will see what unfolds after this. But Joey Daccord has been activated from injured reserve, so that's good.
Coach Bosma said that, you know, he always brings energy, even if the fans and the media aren't seeing him around. He's been very much present, so they haven't necessarily missed his presence in the room because he didn't go anywhere.
But so he should be good to go on this road trip. So that's great. Yanni Gord still on ir. Didn't see him at practice today.
So they did call up Mitchell Stevens and they sent down Ben Myers, who also has done a nice job. So both those two have really done a nice job when they've, when they've been called up. Do you have any thoughts on that?
JT Brown:You know, it's just a, it's an interesting spot. Right. Obviously you don't want players to be hurt and obviously it's good getting Joey back.
And you know what you miss out of a guy like Yanni, you know, being out there, especially in the face offs department. You talk about being out there for the penalty kill as well.
And you know that's a spot where Mitchell Stevens can come in and Ben Myers had done a good job throughout. But that's why you have the organizational depth that the Kraken do have.
And you want to get those guys in, you know, up and down lineup, get them back with this group as well. They've had their opportunity so far this year. It's gone well. And you know, obviously for Mitchell, he gets another opportunity here.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. And when he's been here, he's been really solid. And that was. You mentioned the penalty kill.
That was one of the big things that coach Basma said about that as well as particularly when you'd lose Yanni Gordon. You're not sure when he's going to come back. Having somebody that's strong on the pk, good benefit for the team.
So anyway, and then also Adam Larson was not practicing, but Coach Basma said that that was a maintenance day and Gustav Olufsen is still here. So you also may have heard in those interviews some of the guys reference him. Gustav Olufsen, his nickname is Goose.
So I know that there was a couple other nicknames in there, but like, like Monty said you'll have to have to do your best investigating to figure out who those other ones are that he mentioned. So a big announcement that came out since we last recorded the quarter century teams.
So this is a little bit funny for your Seattle Kraken because obviously we are the 32nd franchise, a very much new team. So we don't necessarily have centuries of hockey and players in history to pull on for this kind of thing.
So the roster kind of looks a little bit like the Kraken's current roster, you could say.
chise's success from the year:So there's a first team and a second team and I'll just run through if you guys want just the first team and then jt, you can offer your thoughts there. So, first team, let's start with the forwards. We got Jordan Eberle, your captain. We miss him.
So Yanni gord and Jared McCann and then on defense you have who else other than Adam Larson and Vince Dunn? And for your goaltender for the first team, Joey Daccord, what do you think about those picks?
JT Brown:I think they did a good job especially with taking a look at the forwards and just the impact that they have had. And obviously Vince Dunn and Adam Larson how much they've played and you look at Joey as well.
So I think they did a good job picking the, the first team.
Obviously you could make cases for some players that are on the second team, but I think also just having, you know, those guys, especially the, the forward group being there the entire time and the defense as well, it seemed like an easy pick for that one, definitely.
Piper Shaw:And then the, the second team here, your forwards are Maddie Beniers, Oliver Bjorkstrand and Jaden Schwartz.
And then your defense, Brandon Montour, currently having played 41 games as a member of the Seattle Kraken, although his value clearly has been on display there. And then Jamie Alexiak for your other defender and Philip Grubauer for your goalie.
JT Brown:Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah. At the end of the day, you have to make some decisions when you only get to pick five players and then obviously one goalie for each of the teams.
And again, you can make cases for all. You can make cases for Maddie and Schwartz as well. But I think the longevity of the forward side, obviously, I think they just picked the right ones.
And you know, at the end of the day, it has been a impressive 41 games for Brandon Montour as well. And again, I like the pick of Jamie Alexia as well. I think you could swap Grubauer and Joey depending upon how you wanted to go.
But I think when you go with the recency of, you know, how Joey's been playing and what he's done from an impact perspective, you know, I still think that Joey, maybe up on the first team, was the right pick.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, I agree with that. And Grant, I know that you had a question on this one to pose.
Grant Beery:Yeah.
So you look at, you know, Beniers, Bjorkstrand and Daccord are three players that are, they're on this team out of the 12 that weren't there from the beginning. So those are the only three. So most of these players have been here from the beginning.
But I wonder, is there a player that you would choose, either first or second team, or at all, that is no longer playing for the Kraken, that you think would be a good case for the quarter century team?
Piper Shaw:So for me, I don't know if necessarily it's the best case. I don't know that I would pick him over our other two goaltenders.
But I do think Martin Jones obviously was a huge part of the Krakens run and ability to make it to the playoffs the year that they did and their success there.
Obviously Phil Grubauer was a big part of actually their performance in the playoffs, but they wouldn't have been there without Martin Jones with Grubi's injury there. So I don't know that I would have, you know, picked him over Joey or Grubi necessarily.
But I do think that that should have, you know, at least been like a conversation because of how important he was there. And then my one other one would be maybe Alex Wennberg.
I just think that for the longevity of the franchise, he had managed so many parts of the game for this team and, you know, had obviously been there from the beginning, so just very responsible and played in both special teams and all those things. So again, I'm like, I don't know that I would necessarily pick him over a Yanni Gourd, but I think there could be a case made for that potentially.
JT Brown:You know, the first thing that I thought of when this question was posed was going to Vitek Vanecek goaltender. Obviously I can't make a case for that one, but at the end of the day I'll pick a real one. And for me, I probably would have to say Mark Giordano.
I think that would be, I mean, even if it's not first team, maybe second team, obviously first captain in Seattle, crack in history just to play that out.
And obviously it wasn't the longest reign, but I think just impact of what, you know, meant to the team and, you know, obviously he'll forever have that title. So I think that that would be a good or would have been a good option of somebody who is no longer, you know, with the Kraken.
Piper Shaw:Right. Yeah, maybe. Maybe there's a case for like him instead of like Jamie Alexia or maybe him instead of Monty, depending on how you kind of.
How you kind of look at that.
JT Brown:But I'm not picking who I got to take off. And the question was just pose who would be another person?
Grant Beery:I would say the only other person I would think to consider. I mean, Giordano was. Is a really good choice as far as just kind of impact on the team. But you look at the.
The only alumni we have as far as the only player that's retired that is played as for the Kraken is Joonas Donskoi. And so maybe there's some consideration there only because he is the sole member of our alumni association like that we.
JT Brown:Were able to give different answers too. We didn't pick the same one, so that's good.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, technically, I guess I don't know the rule on this, but I wonder if Justin Schultz. I wouldn't necessarily Put Justin Schultz on this list, but I wonder if he counts as retired as a Kraken.
I mean, I know he went to Sweden for a couple of months.
Grant Beery:Oh, did he?
Piper Shaw:You're right.
Grant Beery:Did not play for another team in between, did he?
Piper Shaw:Not another NHL team.
Grant Beery:So we have two members of our alumni association. Okay.
Piper Shaw:Okay, great. Maybe.
JT Brown:Yeah.
Piper Shaw:Shouldn't you know about that? Jt, as somebody who's retired from the.
JT Brown:NHL, you know what? I. But I formally retired, so I don't know how that all works.
Piper Shaw:At the end of the day, I don't either. I guess we can figure it out.
Ryker Evans:Do.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. Well, maybe we'll have to reach out to Jonas.
I know that Joonas's wife, Devin, also was really involved with, like, the community work of the team and stuff, too. So if there was a first team for community impact, I definitely think the Donskois would. Would be in there for the Seattle Kraken as well.
And honestly, probably the Wennbergs, too, because Felicia, Alex Wennberg's wife, did a ton of stuff with that as well.
Grant Beery:So there you go.
Piper Shaw:All right. Um, I did not mention earlier about Daniel Sprung. Daniel Sprung has been waived at the time that we are recording this by the Seattle Kraken.
So at the time of recording this, he's not been picked up by another team, so we cannot necessarily comment on his fate.
But Coach Bosma just said it's pretty much just a roster decision, and you got to think that he would rather be playing somewhere even if that's Coachella or a different team, rather than being scratched here.
JT Brown:But, yeah, it's a tough position. Right. I've. I've gone through the waiver process as well.
And, you know, the waiver process is there to give players a new opportunity, and whether that is, you know, obviously they can go down and then play in the American Hockey League and then obviously be called back up. But it also gives other teams an option if they want to claim you and pick you up and go play somewhere else in the National Hockey League.
So it's made for the players that they are able to get that option and not just, you know, say, be buried down in the minor leagues. And especially when you have NHL talent and you have an NHL skill set, you want to have another opportunity.
So whether that goes to another team, we don't know yet. But obviously it's just a. It's a tough part. It's part of the business of the sport.
We've talked about that before when it comes to trades and different aspects of the NHL but for me, and obviously being a part of that, I got waived in Tampa and got claimed by Anaheim. So that gave me a new start.
It gave me a fresh beginning to go move to another NHL team and try to show, you know, what you can do out there on the ice. So it's a beneficial spot for the players. Obviously, it can be a tricky one.
You want to be, you know, obviously he's been in Seattle before, came back and was excited to be back with the group and with the group of guys and to be that part.
So it obviously has its two folds, part where obviously you're going to miss being around different guys, whether you're claimed or sent down to the minor leagues. But at the same time, you know, it is a new opportunity for you.
Piper Shaw:What can you share about kind of the. The process and the conversation, like, what are they? How is it communicated to you when you're a player and you're going on waivers?
JT Brown:Yeah. So just get a call, you know, from the GM and they. They let you know, hey, we're planning on putting you on waivers.
You know, in my case, you know, for them, they said, you know, we hope you clear, right? We hope that you will go to the American Hockey League. And obviously, you know, we want to get you back up.
We want to get, you know, you're part of this team, you're going to be a part of the run later.
But right now, obviously, a roster decision needs to be made and we would like, you know, our hope is that you end up going to Syracuse at the time and you'll come back to Tampa. That's not what ended up happening. I ended up getting claimed on waiver. So, you know, think for me, it was just more of the conversation.
Hey, we're letting you know. But at the same time, you know, it does feel nice, right?
Obviously, that, hey, we want you to come back, you're still part of this team, even though we're sending you down or trying to send you down to the minor leagues. You know, it's just a weird process. Obviously, it's not one you're all ready for.
But obviously, having that open line of communication and, you know, having a GM or having someone come tell you, you know, why this decision was being made, and obviously you're still part of the team, even though it didn't end up working that way was. Was nice.
Piper Shaw:And what about when you're claimed? Like, so when you were claimed by Anaheim, do they call you? Is it your agent? What happens?
JT Brown:Yeah, so I got a call from Anaheim and for me it was, hey, can you get on a plane and go to Denver? And I believe we were in the middle of our break at the time, too. So I hadn't practiced for like five days.
I had been sitting in my pool on my little floaty and like, yeah, we got a. There's a game tomorrow in Denver and we need someone to play. That was when Cogliano ended up getting suspended.
And his iron man streak had begun by the wayside because of that. So you're not in a spot really to say no either. Yeah, so I'm like, all right, yeah, you know, I'll be there. So I think I got on a flight.
landed in Denver around like: Piper Shaw:Yes, it is.
JT Brown:So I think by the time I got all settled in, I think it was about midnight somewhere right around there. And it was a afternoon game. I think it was like a 1:00 start. So no pre game skate.
Hadn't been skating for like five days and had been, you know, relaxing at the pool. Uh, so that was a tough game to, to get right into.
Piper Shaw:Um, how'd you do? Were you minus four or.
JT Brown:I don't remember. I just remembered I played way too many minutes for me from what I had been used to playing.
And then on top of that, having hot skating and then being in Denver at altitude. I just remember every period my legs were up on the bench, I was laying on the floor with my legs up, trying to get my legs to feel decent again.
So it was a, it was a tough game, but it was definitely fun.
You know, you had the adrenaline, right, of being within team and you know, obviously kind of similar situation where, you know, with Capo, he comes over, you want to impress your being around all this newness, but at the same time, you have the excitement of being on a new team and you want to go out there and perform. So again, it's a. It's a weird spot to be in, walking into a locker room, especially for that first time with. Really. Again, if you know somebody. Yes.
But if you don't, it still can be an interesting spot. So it was fun, but I wouldn't want to do that again, especially with the time off and playing in altitude. That was interesting.
Piper Shaw:And early game.
JT Brown:Yes, yes. On top of that.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, that's tough. I also, I wonder what kind of the conversation was like, I guess for you and Lexi in that moment, too. And how maybe that varies from, like, a trade.
Like, what do you. Like, what does it mean for your family?
JT Brown:You know, I mean, for me, it was just. We just got out there. Obviously, it's, hey, we're gonna start.
You start working with the team, and they start trying to figure out where you're gonna live. How are we gonna get everybody out there?
I believe for the start, I think it took about a week or so before Lexi and Lily, at the time, came out to Anaheim and stayed in a hotel for a while to make it figure out where we ended up living. But it was a little bit of a whirlwind, right?
You have to figure out what's moving cars from one side of the country from Florida to Anaheim, and then just kind of figuring that side of it out.
So it does go really quickly, especially from, you know, answering a call saying, hey, you're going on waivers, and then end up picking up another call that says you were claimed off waivers, and.
Piper Shaw:Then you're on a flight.
JT Brown:Within, I think it's probably five hours later, six hours later, you're getting ready to go on a flight. So are you flying with your gear that quickly? Yeah. So grab my gear, grab the suitcase.
That could pack as much as I could for the, you know, 10 days or so.
And then, obviously, Lexi was able to get over to Florida or from Florida to California with obviously more stuff than what I would normally have with me. But it goes fast. That's probably the same thing with the trade.
Trade is, I mean, again, usually within 24 hours, you're on the move, and no different, really, when you get claimed off waivers, I guess I probably could have said no, like, hey, I can't make it to that game. But that's really not the impression you're trying to make, you know, with the new team and new organization as well.
So, obviously, if there wasn't a flight, there's times where it just can't work out. But, you know, you just try to get out there as fast as possible.
Piper Shaw:Nice to be able to have the support of your wife, too, and, like, have somebody that's, like, when you're on that tight turn, it would be like, well, if I did forget something, I have somebody at least still in Tampa who can, like, help support me, I would imagine. Because if you're just on your own riffing around, you know, like, because.
Because some of these guys, they are on their own, you know, and it's like, pack what you have and hope you can get back, or I Mean, everybody has, you know, there's resources and there's support for everybody and help there. But it's, it's quite the lifestyle.
JT Brown:It's all about the turnaround. That's what makes it so hard is when you have to get up and move.
Obviously, you know, myself, like, I owned my house in Florida, so we had bought it and we're like, oh, this is great. And then eventually it's like, no, all right, now we gotta really figure this whole thing out again.
But no, it was definitely the turnaround aspect is what makes you know, that part. Whether to trade, whether it's getting claimed off waivers, which makes it so hard.
Piper Shaw:So I wanted to go back really quick to talking about Mitchell Stevens, speaking of kind of bubble players, if you will. So Mitchell Stevens or I was working on a feature on Vince Dunn last week which will be airing when we are in Buffalo. So tune into Kraken pregame.
I've been. I've been grinding on these features which are online now. So if you're not watching Kraken pregame, then you're not.
Or if you're not watching Kraken pregame, rather than you have not seen me. So I would encourage you to go to the Kraken's website to check them out because there's some pretty nice stories on your favorite players.
But there's one coming on Vince Dunn. And when I was listening to this interview with Vince, he was talking about how his mom actually didn't really want him to play hockey.
He didn't come from a hockey family, but it was his neighbor, Eddie Belanger, I believe is how you say it. Belanger, who is like, oh, you should get Vince on skates, blah, blah, blah. And Eddie was Mitchell Stevenson's first ever hockey coach.
So while Vince is telling me this interview, which we did back in September, he didn't even really know Mitchell, like at all at the time. He's like, so you might need to fact check this.
And so on, you know, Saturday, when I'm listening through this interview, I'm like, oh, man, Mitchell was just here and now he's not here, so I can't ask him. So anyways, now Mitchell's here and I was able to. To check in with it.
So, yeah, just kind of a funny, random cracking connection that doesn't really have a place to share anywhere else. But I thought that was kind of funny.
So it was Mitchell Stevenson's first hockey coach that was Vince Dunn's neighbor, which is the reason that Vince plays hockey and the reason that we all get to enjoy him playing. So kind of a. Yeah. The hockey world is very small.
Ryker Evans:Yeah.
JT Brown:I was gonna say that's the one thing that never really surprises me is when you find those small details that intersect with hockey and whether it's in Minnesota, across Canada, and you go to different places, it always seems to have that, like, small feel, even though it's such a grand sport and so many people play and from so many different regions, and you always end up finding those little connections.
Piper Shaw:Yeah. I was also.
I've been doing a lot of research on one Oliver Bjork strand as well for another feature, and I found this picture online of him sitting on a bench in his jersey next to a very young Brock Besser. And I have been Googling, and I am not sure where that connection comes from. So now I'm gonna have to go to Oliver and be like. Like the picture.
Brock looks like he's probably 10 years old, if that. Like, so I. And it's from a long time ago, obviously.
JT Brown:Send me the picture. We'll get to the bottom. This.
Piper Shaw:Okay. Yeah. Cause you know him. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm like, what is. What is this connection here? So I know that.
That Oliver's dad is from Minnesota originally, even though Oliver is from Denmark, obviously. But. Yeah, so we'll have to investigate that. We'll try to come back with some. Some updates for you guys.
I'm sending this to you, jt, but that being said, I feel like we should just kind of get into a little bit of talk about the state of crack and hockey right now. So Coach Bylsman, when we were at practice, was just talking about the importance of this road trip and kind of the mindset and the.
The overall message has been needing to find consistency.
We heard Brandon Montour talking about that with me post game after the New Jersey loss as well, because even though there were some good things from that home stand, because of that inconsistency, I think the tone is. It's really hard to take any kind of positives away from that.
JT Brown:Yeah, I mean, I think the. The one thing that we could look at from.
Especially the home stand, when you can go throughout the entire year if you really want to break everything down. But the most recent part is playing from behind. Right.
And obviously it's been great that the Kraken have been able to come back and they've been able to not give up in these games and show that they can score. But you look at a lot of the games, especially the Edmonton game, you spot a team like that, with, you know, the talent they have on their side.
Two goals off the start, and now you're playing from behind, and you have to take extra chances to try to get yourself back into the game. They do claw themselves back to being within one, but just not able to get the job done.
Obviously, you look at the first couple of games, yeah, they're able to come back, they're able to win.
But when you look at the consistency aspect of it, it is hard to do in any sport is to keep coming back and win those games, especially as the season goes on. We're at that halfway point now, and points are even more important now.
Every team is fighting for that last spot or trying to extend their lead, whether they're in a playoff spot or not. So I think it just gets harder and harder as the games go on, and it's extremely hard to play from behind. All teams have great goaltenders. All teams.
Well, we saw that in the New Jersey Devils game, where you might run into that, right? But you got to find yourself in a position where you can play with a lead, play from the other side.
Where they have shown, yes, they can come back in games, but overall, if you keep doing that, eventually it's going to bite you.
And again, you look at the home stand, yes, they were able to get points, especially in the first three games, but eventually, if you keep playing from behind, you're not going to end up coming back and getting at least that one point, you know, to push it back to overtime and whether you win that game or not. So for me, especially looking where the Kraken are, points are the most important thing right now.
However you get, you might not play your best game, but you got to find a way to manufacture points. And from the consistency side, it's just hard to do that when you're constantly playing from behind.
Piper Shaw:So other than the starts, when we're talking about this consistency, or rather this inconsistency in the team's game, in the execution, what kind of alarms you or what. Maybe not alarms, but what are you paying attention to?
Because one of the things that has been generally consistent has been like the penalty kill, you know, but is it. Is it kind of the transition game for you? Is it the power play? Is it the energy?
Like, what do you kind of, you know, what are you kind of focused on there?
JT Brown:Well, I think the power play is the easiest one because you have that man advantage. You have the. Or it's the importance, right, on how much that can swing a game to your side. Or you know, from the other side, the penalty kill. Right.
I think from a momentum building standpoint throughout games, that's the easiest one to say, hey, let's look at that. Let's look at, you know, they're not scoring, they haven't scored for a while on the power play and what's going on wrong there.
But I'm going to take it to another part for me.
You know, I think of the, I would say more of like the turnovers and right outside the blue lines and they've gotten themselves caught quite a few times trying to make one extra play and it ends up going back the other way. And not every time does that lead to a goal against, but it leads to extended shifts into your own zone.
I believe it was the Utah game where Jamie Alexiak had 4 minutes and 15 seconds.
Piper Shaw:I believe it was Shane Wright was.
JT Brown:Had a really long shift over three minutes. And you know, when those shifts, you just slowly start seeing more of those. And obviously when you're tired, you make mistakes.
When mistakes happen, usually they end up into the back of the net. It did not happen for that long shift.
But I'd want to focus on, you know, making sure you're making the right decisions, whether it's at your blue line or the far blue line, because they have shown that when those mistakes do happen, it ends up going back and it negatively affects not only the next shift, right, because those guys are tired, how long is it going to take for them to recoup? But also sometimes it does lead to an actual goal or, you know, a direct chance again.
So if you can clean that area up, you're going to be better off, you know, for the rest of the games as well.
Piper Shaw:And the momentum obviously too.
You know, like we hear Eddie talk about it all the time, you know, even if it's not that goal, even if it's not the chances, it's just like knowing, I would imagine like in your head, like, we keep doing this, we keep doing this, like for your own fight as a team and also the other, your, your opposition, you know, it's like they're like, okay, well we can just keep doing this then. And that momentum is such an important part of this game too, obviously.
JT Brown:And I think the other, I mean a good thing too, when you see from a consistency side is when the Kraken are playing their game, when they are just getting pucks in behind the defenseman and getting in on the forecheck, you're seeing a lot of extended shifts on the offensive side. You're seeing positives there, you're forcing them to turn over. Same thing that other teams are doing to the Kraken. You get to see that from them.
So it's more along the lines of just playing their game. And when they stick to that, obviously I, I hate saying, like, play 60 minutes because it's impossible. The other team's going to get their chances.
They're going to be in your offensive zone.
But being a more consistent factor of, I guess, decision making and making sure that you guys are all on the right page going forward so that everybody can be on the forecheck together and it's not just one player going in and then it's an easy breakout the other way. So there's just tiny, tiny things. Sometimes they're off by just a little bit, right. And then it ends up going back the other way.
Piper Shaw:So. And I want to talk about two players too, that since we last recorded, have really put together some great performances.
One, Jaden Schwartz, obviously a huge part in that comeback win against Vancouver, but really continued that. What have you seen from him and how he has been leading by example?
JT Brown:Well, I mean, I think the goals is the easy part. Right. And you talked about the leading, the comeback.
I also go back to the in Vancouver where he's one on four and, you know, knifes his way through and just the mentality of getting to the front of the net and, you know, that's what he does.
He goes out there, he plays the right way, he's out in the net front always, whether it's on the power play or five on five, even throw him, see him throw in and hits every now and then as well, which isn't always a part of his game.
And, you know, he's just one of those leaders that you can watch how he plays and that's how you'd say, hey, I want everybody to go out and play the way he's playing. So again, the goals are great, he's getting on the score sheet, he's doing all those things.
But, you know, I also see him laying down, trying to block shots. There really isn't one part of his game right now that's missing. Right. And that's not hard. It's not easy to do for a long stretch of time.
There's going to be times where you don't have your best stuff. But I think the mentality and how he plays makes it so that he can do that consistently whether the goals are going in for him or not.
It's more about how he plays.
Piper Shaw:And how about Vince Dunn? I mean, I feel like we have. Absolutely. We're reminded of how much we missed him while he was injured. Watching him play this last week too.
JT Brown:Yeah, I mean, I look at his offensive ability, right? Skating the puck up, being a. Essentially another forward, right?
When he's going to be, whether he has the puck or he's being a third wave, whether they can find him, but obviously in the offensive zone and on the pitch. Power play is where he really makes his. Makes his living. Right. He's a very offensive and skilled defenseman, but that doesn't mean he neglect.
Neglects the back end or where he's going into the defensive side too. He's always using great stick. He gets in on the. He's not afraid to shy away from any of the physicality. I like that side of his game as well.
And you know, obviously getting in the mix. Not afraid to get in the mix, but not always. Not going over the line either. Right.
He definitely plays with a bit of emotion out there and it's fun to watch, especially again when he has the puck on his stick. He can always, you know, make something out of nothing.
Piper Shaw:So. Speaking of Vince Dunn, since we last recorded was the holiday break, and on that episode we talked about our Christmas lists.
But before we get to that, John Forsland and I both flew overnight after the last game before the break, which was in Denver. Um, we flew overnight, we flew to JFK and then to Raleigh. My family's in Wilmington. John obviously spent it in Raleigh.
And we were waiting for our flight in JFK or actually in Denver to go to jfk. And Vince came in and so me into the lounge that we were in. So me and John and Vince had a nice little post Colorado conversation, the three of the.
The three of us. And so it was nice to kind of get to see Vince a little bit, like fully away from the game. And he shared a lot with us.
And one of the things that I wanted to share because we get asked this question a lot, is he lives in Seattle. So I know that a lot of people wonder how many of the players actually live in Seattle versus the east side.
So I do know he lives in Seattle and he owns a house and he's very excited about having purchased that home. And he's got plans for renovations. And he. He's so funny. He's like, I love my neighbors. They're all so cool. He's like, they'll do such cool things.
Like, my one neighbor, like, used to sell insurance and it's Just like, oh, I just. I love how much he loves to connect with the community. And he's very proud to live in Seattle. So.
He also said that he has been encouraging everybody to move into Seattle. So I know, like, Maddie had moved into Seattle this year and some of the other guys, so. And Jamie also, I guess, lives.
Jamie Lexiak lives nearby him too.
So I just wanted to share that because I know we get questions a lot if everybody is in Kirkland and Bellevue in that area, and the answer is, no, they are not. So. And it sounds like more and more are moving in to be closer to the rink and all the things that Seattle offers.
JT Brown:So anyways, I don't like traffic, so I think that's a good idea.
Piper Shaw:That's what I said. I was like, I like trying to get to KCI every day, like, where from where I live. That was when we bought our house.
Like, one of the main priorities, because I just don't. I like to drive if I have, like, an open road, as you know. You like to drive, too.
Me and JT are like the opposite of the conversations that you hear of. John and Edzo on the. John and Edzo on the broadcast are always chirping about carpooling together. Me and JT are like the opposite.
JT Brown:So we would be fine to carpool together. That would be okay.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, we'd be fine. We're more aggressive, I think, than they are, from what I've gathered. I've never been in a car with that Zoer John. But yeah.
Anyway, with that being said, I also wanted to talk about your Christmas list, but you are sporting something.
JT Brown:Yeah, I got my necklace. Little pearl necklace. I did end up getting it. I didn't think I was going to, but Lexi came through. She. She got my list.
I did not get the Rolex, if anybody was wondering. Still hoping out for you. Maybe next one. Maybe next. Maybe my birthday. Who will figure it out?
But I did get everything else on my list that I asked for, so. So it ended up being very good. Obviously it ended up being more. It's more about the kids, and they got all their.
Their nice little things and toys and. But yeah, I was pretty excited when I first got it, and I had to. I posted it online right away that I was wearing it, and I'd send Piper.
And you know what? Lexi was. Right away, she said, she's like, I don't know why you're getting this. You shouldn't. And then at the end, she's like, you know what?
I kind of like it, it was a good idea. I'm like, yes. So that was plus one for me.
Piper Shaw:Did you tell her right away when you opened it up that you were like, oh, I'm so going to get to chirp Piper about this?
JT Brown:Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I did get the picture. Who do you think took the picture while we weren't. She had to do it for me. And no, it was, it was good, though.
When I opened it up, I was like, what is this? And then I saw it was, like, kind of long, and it was. I knew it was going to be a necklace inside. I was like, oh, yes, I'm getting it.
So I was pretty excited for that one. And, you know, it was one that was unexpected. So those are probably the best ones, right?
Piper Shaw:Yeah. Which you have proof of because you said that you didn't think that you were going to get it, so. Makes it even sweeter.
JT Brown:Yeah, no, I mean, I, I, I really like it. And, you know, I'm, I've been sporting it just about every.
I won't say every day because I don't want to overdo it, but, yeah, for the most part, it's my number one necklace right now.
Piper Shaw:Okay. So I also noticed today at practice that one of our great videographers, Marcus, was wearing a pearl necklace. Is this, Is it like a trend?
Like Christmas?
JT Brown:Do.
Piper Shaw:Are they back? And I just. Are they back and for men or what? Like, I just didn't know.
JT Brown:I also was wearing my hat. Not right now, but my winter hat today. That was also on my list. That's what I got. So we have two gifts on this trip right now.
Piper Shaw:Awesome. Excellent. What was the highlight for the kids?
JT Brown:Oh, I mean, each. The next one they opened, they just like, whatever. The next one was the next one, the next one.
Although I will say, I think Lily one of her favorite things. So she is a very, like, with Pokemon, her favorite one is Eevee.
Piper Shaw:Oh, great one.
JT Brown:Great. Yeah. For the Pokemon cards.
They obviously are collecting them and they have a whole binder now, and I wish I would have kept mine as a kid and I could have just passed them on.
Piper Shaw:I had a little Pokedex like, for, but for the cards, so.
JT Brown:And we ended up getting her all of the evolutions of Eevee on Pokemon cards. So she was very, very happy about that. And Booker was happy about his Snorlax, though, so Pokemon. Yeah. Pokemon card.
Piper Shaw:Yeah.
JT Brown:But I mean, they got a lot. I mean, whether it was. Booker also got a remote. Remote control truck, so he's been Playing.
Piper Shaw:With that quite like an RC truck, basically. Nice.
JT Brown:So, I mean, again, they. They. They play with it, and then they're not going to play with it, and they're going to come back to it. So that's kind of how the. The break went.
They had their favorite toy or their favorite, you know, craft, and then they disliked it and they went to another one, and then they end up going back, so. But it was still fun to watch them open it. That's kind of the. The reason for. For me for Christmas. I mean, that's my favorite part, for sure.
Piper Shaw:Yeah, it was fun. So I spent it. I spent the holidays with my family in Wilmington. I have two brothers. They're one older, one younger.
And then my dad and my stepmom, and then my husband. We haven't had a holiday together in a very long time of any kind. So it was nice to just be together. We did the Hot Ones challenge. We also.
We did that on Christmas for Christmas Day. It might have been Christmas Day. I think it was Christmas Day that we did the Hot Ones challenge.
And then when I was growing up, we used to do this thing called Crazy Drink Night, and it was where it was like a kind of an exercise in learning recipes and teaching us how to mix things and flavors when we were kids and there was no alcohol involved. But now that we were adults, my parents were like, let's do it as adults. So we did do that. So that was fun.
But something that was really cool for me was my little brother, who he's 25 now, but I don't really, like, see him a ton, but he has, like, a job and, you know, actually, he might be. I think he's 26. He's 26. He's 26.
JT Brown:Anyway, get this, right?
Piper Shaw:Yeah, he's 26. But anyway, I don't see him a lot, but he.
Now that he has, like, money to spend and just is more involved in those aspects of, like, family and holidays and stuff than he was when he was, like, a college student who's like.
Piper Shaw:Oh, don't wake me up.
Piper Shaw:You know, that. That kind of energy. He was just, like, so enjoying being there with us. And he got everybody so many gifts. He.
He thrifted me like this Alexander McQueen top that. It's very cool. It's black. It has, like, these chains on it. He's like, I just thought this was so cool.
I was at the thrift shop, and I'm like, for me, that was. For me, that was so cool, because it's like he's at a random thrift store and he just saw something. He's like, oh, I think my sister would like that.
So anyway, that was a big highlight for me. And then my other. My older brother got me the Hazbin Hotel soundtrack on vinyl. If you don't know what has been hotel is, that's like one of my.
That's like my favorite show, but it's on Amazon Prime. It's an animated musical. It's incredible. But yeah. So anyway, it sounds like great holidays.
JT Brown:Grant, I got a question for you.
Grant Beery:Yeah.
JT Brown:How did the. How did the earrings work? Did it go well?
Grant Beery:Very well. So I. Those, those went over exactly how I'd hoped they would. And she's been wearing them pretty much non stop. So I'm very happy about that.
And she surprised me. She got me another gift even though I already got my vacuum. I have two cats. I have Disher and Butters.
And so what she did is she got me these T shirts with their faces and almost kind of like, you know, those like old like Scarface T shirts where it's like a montage of like his Al Pacino's face and it says like Scarface on the top. She got me a. A T shirt of each of my cats, like kind of in that. Kind of in that vein. So I have like the ultimate cat dad shirts now.
So I'm very happy about that.
JT Brown:I'll.
Grant Beery:I've got photos posted on my, my different socials, so if you're following me on socials, you'll be able to see them.
Piper Shaw:So that's incredible.
Grant Beery:Oh, they're great.
JT Brown:That's.
Piper Shaw:That's incredible. I know. We're gonna have to try to get pictures up on our.
On our socials of one the dog wearing the pants so that anybody listening who doesn't understand what that meme is or hasn't seen it has that visual to reference. And then also probably get your necklace up there and yeah, we get a.
Grant Beery:Close up of it.
Piper Shaw:Get the cat shirts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Absolutely. Do you guys, before we wrap things up, do you other.
Any final thoughts, any other Kraken hockeyings or holiday season discussions to be had? I just made that word up. Cracking hockey ings.
Grant Beery:It counts.
Piper Shaw:It's okay.
JT Brown:We can make up words. Yeah, that's fine. No, I mean, I think, I mean, the main thing, if any of the listeners still have any questions that we haven't gotten to.
I'm not sure exactly where they're supposed to send them.
Piper Shaw:Tweet them at us or blue sky them at us.
Grant Beery:Yep. I will give you info on how to do that at the end of the episode. We say it at the end of every episode. We got a hotline. We got an email address.
Socials works as well. You can also just go to seattlekraken.com podcast and there's a form there too. So.
JT Brown:See, I'm learning. I'm learning about the podcast. We're working their way in, but I think those are fun.
Obviously we get to answer some of the fans questions, whether it's hockey related, maybe some that are not hockey related as well. And we can do that. It's. It's definitely fun.
Piper Shaw:I agree. I agree. Awesome. Well, with that, if there is nothing else to add here, then I would just like to say Happy New Year to all of you out there.
We hope that the year is going well for all of you so far and we hope that it continues to be generally a positive direction for the Kraken. That was. They said that after the holiday break, that was when their new year started.
So we hope that they can keep building on it in the back half of this season here. So thank you so much for listening. Thanks for tuning into the Kraken Hockey Network to watch your favorite team in the National Hockey League.
And with that, we will see you in two weeks right here on Signals from the Deep.
Grant Beery:Signals from the Deep is the official podcast of your Seattle Kraken and is a proud member of the Kraken Hockey Network, hosted by Piper Shaw and JT Brown. Music composed by Benny Drawbars, production by Grant Beery. Have a question for the show?
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